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Message: [QUOTE="rhoudini, post: 6930824, member: 1015282"] Hey kdmeteor! Let me try to help. or at least start to improve the discussion. [B]Preflop:[/B] I don't think it is a big mistake to limp with 63s in a 4-handed pot in a live full-ring game, but I also don't praise it. You will be the first to act in all streets, and some times you may even get in trouble when you hit two pair, trips (with small kicker) or when someone hit a better flush than yours. Also, you might fall into the trap of calling too much when you have a straight or flush draw. [B]You also need to pay attention to the rake.[/B] Playing a lot of pots makes you pay more rake, and this is not good. Basically, in SB it is better to play 3-bet or fold, and if nobody raised, you can be the first to raise if you have a good hand. But if you judge that you can stack off some bad player if you hit a big hand, I don't see any problems in limping sometimes, but I still would probably play more connected hands, like 54s, 65s, T8s, etc. [B]Flop:[/B] we hit trips, but despite of being strong, it is still vulnerable to a possible flush draw or if someone has 44. Therefore, I believe we need to be aggressive when we play. We can go for the check-raise. If nobody bets, we should bet 1/2 to 2/3 might be a good amount. When the guy bets 75%, I think we can go for the raise like 12 BB. We are out of position, we need to have more information and also extract value from hands like 88, 77, 55 and flushdraws. Just calling and checking turn gives him the possibility of checking back (because he has position), and we don't want that. We can check-raise these spots with our semi-bluffs too, like strong straight/flush draws, to balance our range. [B]Turn:[/B] this is a bad turn for us, as it completes possible straights, flushes and even gives 77 a full house now. We need to be careful. If we had check-raised flop, I believe we could go for the check-call or to a bet medium-fold if he raises. With this specific combo, I don't see too many hands that he calls with and that we are winning, though. But as you just called flop, donking bet turn is not good, specially when you bet small. If you check-called flop, you almost always want to check again, hoping that he bets. But imagine if you check and he bets this turn. You have a difficult call, but you need to call anyway. Imagine if he bets pot, or if he overbets you. Now you start to realize how difficult is your position because you did not raise on the flop. When you bet small and he just calls, you almost always are winning. He might even be trying to hit the flush if he has the A♦ or K♦, but it can also be a small pair, like 55, chasing the straight. [B]River:[/B] the J is almost an indifferent card, because it is VERY unlikely he has JJ for the nuts (he would have raised preflop). If you had the initiative, you could still keep betting (but I think that now he would fold a lot of his junk hands that he has). [/QUOTE]

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