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Message: [QUOTE="Aballinamion, post: 5646740, member: 289533"] This is neither a bad beat nor a bad play: this is overplaying. Why? First, when we do check from the BB after someone limps, or more than one limps, our range can have something like 70% of bad hands that are not good enough to be raising limpers out of position. So, considering we do check with 70% range from the BB we cannot simply try to bet anything we hit, because we are out of position and our range sucks most of times, even the limpers might have better hands than us. There are exceptions of course, if we do check from the Big Blind and we hit a monster, for example we own K3o and the flop comes, 33X, it is awesome, it comes K3X, excellent, but when he hit only the 3x having bottom pair, sucks and when we hit the Kx, anyone can have a best kicker. When we do bet on the flop and get two callers we must wonder that most of the 5x would fold, and maybe some Tx, would continue, but mostly we have better Kings that your paying OTF and the SDs and FDs, of course. Considering we are out of position we should evaluate our hand and check. I saw you started the hand with a broken stack, and this is never a good sign for a cash table, specially 25 NLHE where you will find a lot of regulars, professionals and many good people, who are not messing around like 2 NLHE, so we must adjust to the proper strategy and a 100 blinds deep strategy is the most used by regulars, for a very long time, ever since 2009, I guess. When we do bet, or shove OTT, having a Top Pair No Kicker (TPNK), we already know that hands that called OTF are the Tx, now crushing us with trips, and the Kx with better kickers than yours, it rests the flush draws and straight draws, but overall we should not be overplaying marginal hands, when we elect to check versus limper/limpers from the Big Blind, because our range is too wide/weak and we must protect it, most of times, by checking and folding. I would check-fold very easy a Top Pair with 3 kicker when I check from the BB and someone bets around. Very easy fold. Regards; Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa [/QUOTE]

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