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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 5709270, member: 305911"] This is not an easy spot as you already know. In looking through the hand, the flop bet sizing jumps out at me. Villain not only down bet but they bet 33% of pot a flop with two spades. Not knowing anything about the villain I am not exactly sure what to make of that but to me it leans towards they are not afraid of the flush nor the kings. This would make me more open to putting them on spades but also could be a play to get us to tool out. I would call this bet as you did and see what the turn brings. On the turn the villain jumps it up to half pot on the sizing. If they were afraid of their hand on the flop for some reason they feel a little better about it now or it could be that since we did not bite on the flop they are looking to get more value on the turn relative to another small bet. In these types of spots I like a raise on the turn because it will really define villains hand here. At this point because of the pre flop 3 bet I am putting them on AA, QQ, AK, Ax spade draw or some Ax in general that they are bluffing. Raising them here (I advocate a small raise that is 2-2.5x in size) will make villain show us something about their hand. If they call raise our raise I am not sure what I would do but would probably depend on the sizing of their raise. If they call, they will also likely check the river to us and we can check behind if we so choose. They might fold which would be getting them to fold worse which is not good but it does have the value of avoiding a potential tough river spot which is what you ultimately faced. I think a small raise here will make it much easier for us to play the hand. Also note worse hands will call there like 10s, 9s, 8s, and maybe even some 7s and lower (doubt they would have 7s or lower based on pre flop but you never know). On the river as played, it sucks because there we are in the middle of villains range. They could easily have AA and QQ here and easily could have 10s-8s. I doubt Ak based on that 3 are out but its possible and AK would play the hand close to if not exactly how villain played it. Given that we have to call a little over $20 to win $34, 1.7 to 1, I think its a call but I damn sure am not loving it. [/QUOTE]

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