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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 5784137, member: 305911"] When I make raises like this, yes I am foregoing giving the chance to villain to continue bluffing with hands that we beat. I am willing to give up that opportunity and potential value though to try to control the villain on the river. The raise I propose on the turn is not for value and you are correct in saying that it will not get many or any better hands to fold but what it should do is make a decision point in the hand for villain. They now have to decide what they are going do and also have to define their hand and start to reveal its true strength to us. That is my goal with this raise. Most people say you should never bet for information and I partly agree with that but the raise here is only a little for information and more for control of the hand. When you do this raise the villain will either think you are full of it or think you could have something. If they think you have something and get a little scared they will check to you on the river and not show any more aggression in the hand. If they think you are full of it then they might re raise in which case you can be sure you are beat and fold or they might think I am going to let this one bluff of his chips on the river to me and I will just call the min raise. If they think we will bluff off our chips on the river then the raise is successful since we will check behind on the river and get to a showdown much more cheaply then having to face a likely bet (possibly large) on the river by the villain. To sum it up, raising on the river has the goal of getting to showdown the cheapest. Our plan would not be to put any more chips in but get the villain to halt their aggression. If they show aggression after the raise of any kind we are most likely beat. You cant overuse this play (meaning multiple times against the same villain unless you balance it). It wont always work but it can get you to a cheap showdown in those spots where you are marginal. Think of how a blocker bet works when you are out of position. This is the same except you are doing the blocker bet as a raise on the street before the one you want to block. [/QUOTE]

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