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Message: [QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 6958324, member: 397965"] I dont have an issue with the 4-bet. Just wanted to point out, that there are other options. I checked the situation with GTO Wizard, and actually the program mainly jam AKo for 100BB, whereas AKs is used for a small 4-bet. This is somewhat surpricing to me, but I guess, it highlight the point, that AKo dont play that well out of position. I can see, where you are coming from here. It is indeed a weird spot for him to be raising, and solvers might not have any raising range at all. I cant check this though, since I typed in a wrong flop, and when I changed it, I hit the payment wall of GTO Wizard. Raising as a bluff dont make much sense either though, since he is giving you a great price to call, and he reopen the betting and risk getting jammed on. Raising flop and checking back turn is not a common line, and probably not a very good one either. If he raise the flop for value, his hand should be good enough to jam the turn, and if he raised as a bluff, then he should also continue his story and jam the turn. So even though he did check back turn this time, that is not something, I would expect to happen very often at all. I just dont see, why AK, AQ or 77-99 would raise the flop? Those hands should all be a square call. 77-99 are also not a common 3-bet preflop against an UTG open. Its difficult to figure out, what he can even have here, since his line is so weird. But my best guess is TT-QQ and maybe some busted flushdraws, but some of those paired on the J. So I dont think, you have the best hand here almost ever. Maybe you beat KQ of spades, but thats literally one combo. So I definitely dont think, you can check-call, and I also dont think, you are getting enough folds, when you jam. [/QUOTE]

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