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[QUOTE="eetenor, post: 5918655, member: 385063"]
Thank U 4 Posting

So why not 3 bet  the 89s? 
Does this Villain 4 bet often? 
Is the V a calling station so you knew you could not get them to fold a pair post flop?
Was the table so tight you knew you would not go multiway with what might be a dominated flush draw?

So why not raise the flop? 
 Why not try to build a pot and protect a vulnerable 2 pair? 
Were you trapping? 
 If so why are we not all in on the turn?

When the V bets into the straight card on the turn V has 215 -7-17-51=140
U call pot is 153 you shove for 140 more  they are getting 2-1 to call so folds are not a certainty here and if they do fold over pairs like QQ we are fine they still have 18% on the turn.

This V bet pot every street so folding the river is not obvious here. Players that bet like this on that turn can think AA is the nuts on the river. They also can have AKc AQc and shove river.

So we have to ask why pot every street?
If they had a set why pot the flop and the turn putting max pressure on most of your range?
If they had the draw on the flop-JT- pot bet is possible but why pot the turn when pot size bets get more folds and they just made the nuts?

If we know our V well we can trap for stacks with 2 pair here which means we are never folding the river.

If we do not know our V really well we want to take action on the flop so we know where we are in the hand and to control the pot size if we get a sick runout like A K Q J on turn which could give our V sets.

Hope this helps
:):)
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