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Message: [QUOTE="eetenor, post: 6087778, member: 385063"] Thank you for posting In the game you describe after a 4x open and a call your sizing OOP usually gets the results it got 2 calls. What was your expectation when you raised? This would help with understanding next steps. The pot is 65 -28 to call for the first V that is 2.32-1 to call and if they do the second V is calling as well. Not a good sizing for getting folds with AQ OOP in this type of game vs standard V. The data you would need to use to adjust bet size preflop in this spot is- 1 V's specific ranges- UTG what range do they open in this manner? A standard UTG2 open range by a tight player can have AQ dominated so raising larger is an issue as we really do not want to fold AQ but do not want to call a 4 bet from a tight player either due to SPR. The issue with V2 TAG is what range did they play with a call vs UTG2? Why were they not isolating? What range would they iso raise? Would they ever Iso? This is a good Equilab exercise where we estimate both ranges and look at AQoff equity vs 2 refined ranges based on specific villain tendencies not GTO. Based on that equity estimate we decide if we need to raise larger to get one V to fold to steal equity for our hand if that is a realistic possibility. I would much rather raise larger vs the original raiser being in late position or if the UTG2 was loose. The problem with a raw equity estimate OOP is it is very difficult to realize our full equity post flop, so we would want to drop our equity estimate by 5% because of being OOP. 2 We want to have a good idea of how our V play post flop before we decide on bet sizing pre when OOP. So we should know that we will not be bluffed very often if we are going to build a big pot pre. In this case the V played very passively post flop so that suggests the best strategy is keeping the SPR higher with hands like AQ preflop so your sizing was fine for this situation but you could consider calling OOP for even greater post flop SPR. Your sizing falls in the feeler raise range (we need to know this) to see how strong UTG2 was. No 4 bet means no AA KK QQ -AK? Hope this helps :):) Hope this helps :):) [/QUOTE]

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