$200 NL O 6-max: JJ jackpot flop!!!

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PFR
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Villain Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 23/14/4
Easy fold river?

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Edit: sigh.... Texas.... not Omaha... 😩
 
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Preflop
Fine spot to 3-bet.

Flop
Seems ok to slowplay top set here, although you could also go for a small bet.

Turn
As played easy call. No real reason to check flop and then raise turn.

River
You have underrepped your hand postflop, which open the door for him to bluff, and there are very few hands, you lose to. He could even have a worse hand for value like a smaller set or maybe QJ. Easy call.
 
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Preflop
Fine spot to 3-bet.

Flop
Seems ok to slowplay top set here, although you could also go for a small bet.

Turn
As played easy call. No real reason to check flop and then raise turn.

River
You have underrepped your hand postflop, which open the door for him to bluff, and there are very few hands, you lose to. He could even have a worse hand for value like a smaller set or maybe QJ. Easy call.
Well he had 43s and i lost, i didnt even see it coming, my hand reading skills is very off right now. I just didnt see a vpip 23% call 43s so i thought exactly like you either he Misses flushdraw river and bluff or hit QJ or maybe AQ... But nooope he have the nut straight with 43 😩
 
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Well he had 43s and i lost, i didnt even see it coming, my hand reading skills is very off right now. I just didnt see a vpip call 43s so i thought exactly like you either he Misses flushdraw river and bluff or hit QJ or maybe AQ... But nooope he have the nut straight with 43 😩
If he play 43s as a dubble flat preflop (calling the initial raise and then calling the 3-bet), then he also play all small pairs the same way. This mean, he have 4 combos of 43s but 9 combos of lower sets. Even if that is his entire range, you still have a very profitable call winning more than 2 out of 3 times. Just because the opponent happen to have the nuts this time, does not mean, you did anything wrong.
 
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Well he had 43s and i lost, i didnt even see it coming, my hand reading skills is very off right now. I just didnt see a vpip 23% call 43s so i thought exactly like you either he Misses flushdraw river and bluff or hit QJ or maybe AQ... But nooope he have the nut straight with 43 😩
That sucks but you didnt do anything wrong in the hand and its normal not to hand read a wierd hand.

P.S. where are these super soft 200NL games you seen to have found?
 
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Just an additional more theoretical comment here. You are playing 200NL, and at such stakes the average opponent is certainly able to bluff, even when they are overbetting the river. So you can not put yourself into situations, where you literally fold your entire range. And in this particular spot you cant really arrive on the river with a hand better than JJ.

If you had QQ, you would likely have bet the flop, because the hand needs more protection and unblock top pair. And if you had 43s, you would likely just have called preflop, and if you did 3-bet, then you would have C-bet the flop, because its a draw, and its literally the nut low. So this is literally the best hand, you can even have, and for that reason alone its 100% a call, and its not even something, you need to think about.

He bet around 160% pot, since you are the effective stack not him. Against that size your MDF (Minimum Defense Frequenzy) is 38%. So the far more interesting question is, which other hands you pick to call with to reach 38%, that arrive on the river this way? Its not easy to find any hands other than JJ, that really wants to call, and good players can exploit that by overbetting to apply max pressure to a capped range.
 
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No flush possibility and it's hard to put anyone on 34 here. There's literally no way anyone would be folded the third nuts there, not when 34 is unlikely and QQ would have 3bet the btn raise.

You just got real unlucky. Mark the dude and get him next time.
 
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