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Message: [QUOTE="eetenor, post: 6805579, member: 385063"] OMG I almost fell out of my seat when you wrote -yes I know raise more :D So preflop 3 bet larger then 5 bet jam based on stack depth - often we want to 5 bet small but a small five bet is to 180 or 200 making the pot 400 and we would have 150 behind so never flat always jam in this spot as we can get max value from some hands and still protect vs drawing hands On flop stack off -at this stack depth On turn we are all ready all-in so we never have to play this spot. If our foundation is strong then we find ourselves in fewer tricky spots post flop on turns. The only reason to flat preflop is to see a flop without an A if we see that flop then we are all in on the flop- we still lose with this line and possibly any line but based on stack depth we never get past flop with chips left in our stack This is advice for loose 1-3 games not all games :unsure::geek: [/QUOTE]