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Message: [QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 7136946, member: 397965"] It is of course a little more complicated than that, because if he has a hand like JJ, and turn is a K, maybe he freeze and dont put in the rest of his chips. And then we do get to see both cards for 60 more. But there is also a flip side, because if we improve on the turn, there will be 4 cards to a straight on the board, and then an overpair might no longer be willing to stack off. So we dont have good implied odds to compensate for sometimes having to pay a lot to see the last card. I think, the whole hand would be a lot easier, if Hero had not bet full pot. Then the raise also comes in much smaller, and then its a pretty easy call and see a turn in position. Or maybe jam and still have some fold equity. Lets say pot was 20 going to the flop after some rake. Then Hero bet 10, BB call for 10, and UGT raise to 50. If Hero now jam for 193, pot is 273, and its 143 more for UGT to call, so he is getting less than 2:1. In that situation it is easier for him to sometimes raise-fold an overpair, and Hero could more effectively turn his hand into a semibluff. There would also be less risk, that BB is sandbagging some kind of monster, because against a small sizing he will be more inclined to raise. So I really think, Heros sizing created an awkward situation, where Hero dont have any options, that are really great. Folding a hand with this much equity (unless someone flopped a straight) obviously suck. Jamming is unprofitable, unless UTG sometimes fold, and calling seems quite questionable as well. [/QUOTE]

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