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Message: [QUOTE="Station_Master, post: 7136882, member: 1007778"] Its a standard fold pre, but ok its live so call away! Your thought process on the flop is competely off. Why are you thinking of such a strong hand as a bluff. Check or bet smaller are the better options. Facing the raise i dont see whats wrong with call, your IP and its 58 into a pot of 88 i think ( as mentioned above it would help to format better) so about 67% pot. You have the equity to call here. Shoving makes no sense as it will almost never be a bluff from UTG. Sure it sucks if the turn is a broadway and he shoves and you need to fold your equity but it would only be 18% max at the point, and there are also good turns where you are happy stacking off (and others where he may not bet) [/QUOTE]