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Message: [QUOTE="c0rnBr34d, post: 5948029, member: 394557"] Yes, exactly. Theoretically he would only need about 28% equity to continue, guess how much equity he has against our AK vs AJ about 27% + position! It is easier to realize equity for him because he is in position. Even against a hand as strong as KK something like 98s has almost 22% equity plus position. So if we are thinking range vs range he should not be folding very often unless he was stealing light. I pretty much always at least pot 3Bs in or out of position. Potting it already accounts for the dead money. Sizing up should depend on stats of players in the hand and position. Yes, it's a win / win. With our strongest hands we want to get the fattest value and with our bluffs if we have any we want to get the most folds. Taking it down pre flop is always a great result. You would have made 6 BB with no rake in about 5 seconds. Do the math on that win rate. If that happened every hand you would be playing 10 tables and printing money. Big pots will come when they come. Lots of small rake free fast easy pots are just as good. Really I think the majority of players overfold to cbets in 3B pots in general unless you have a loose or weak image. Stronger players may float or raise in position but in general I think most players play more straight forward. Most of my experience comes from live poker where this was true in most of my games up to and including $2/$5. Fundiver has much more experience than I do online but in my experience at least up to 100NL this is still true for most players. Your cbet frequency should increase from single raised pots to 3B pots to 4B pots and so on when you are the aggressor. As Fundiver suggests it's probably more game theory optimal to cbet small and often here but at 2NL sometimes GTO isn't the best play. It's fine to have some checks on a flop like this but I personally would be betting more often than checking. Of course this all can change based on who is in the hand. In my opinion it is much easier for BTN to stab at the pot in position after we check flop than to continue without an Ace, or better if we bet. Likewise it is much easier for SB to lean turn after it checks through. In either of these cases the first person to bet is likely to win the pot unless someone else has and Ace or better. If we are playing against very passive (low aggression factor) or very sticky (don't like to fold) opponents then I may check way more often here. Against straight forward ABC players we can have them fold their equity for a small bet often and get bluffed or outdraw less often as well. As Fundiver says, once we check and they put in a bet we are now the ones in a tough spot and we will have to do a lot of folding whether they had the Ace or not. And if we bet and get raised we can insta-fold. It may be a neat experiment to query your PT4 database and see how both of these options work. How often do you get folds, vs how often you get called or raised. And yes, I would expect their ranges to narrow as the size of our 3B increases so even though it's 3 ways they don't have to have an Ace in this spot as much as they would if we made it 15 BB to go pre. [/QUOTE]

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