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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 5992984, member: 305911"] There are at least two unknowns for this hand that you did not post that would affect how anyone would reply to this post. First, what are the stack sizes? I assume at least 100 BBs for you and villain (which we know villain has 100BBs based on the bet sizings) but do you have 100 BBs or did you start the hand with less? The shorter you are here would incline me more to going with the KK where as anything over 75 BBs to start the hand would make me back off this. Second unknown is one of your kings the K of hearts? This would factor into my turn decision when we got there vs if I had no hearts. As far as the hand goes, your raise needs to be larger and I would say much larger. With 3 limpers in front I would not go any smaller that 15 cents here and I think you can go into the high teen range if you wanted to. Using the 3x plus one for each limper puts you at 12 cents and I think for cash games you need to go higher than that rule (just my opinion there). That probably does not change the hand but it might deter getting many callers as even though we want someone to call with a worse hand there is an inflection point to where if everyone calls we are worse off. We really want just one caller if we could make it that way. The flop is a terrible flop for us against limpers who then called our raise. Its a wet board that nails small pairs for sets, straights could already be there and flush draws could be there as well. We get donk led into which on first glance would make me think a hand that does not want us to check behind (meaning I dont put them on hearts here and I am guessing there but going by feel). Sets could play this way as well as made straights and 2 pair hands. I would call here on the flop but I am hating things right now. Turn is a bad card since it brings a heart even though I said I dont think they have hearts. It could be good in a sense it could slow down a set and straight but that is the only good I see. When they donk lead again for half pot or so this is where the big decision has to be made. I am either folding now or going all the way with this. I dont think it is good to call the turn and then fold the river unless maybe you call and river is an ace. You could raise here an try to rep the flush but then you are trying to get 2 pair, a set or straight to fold and at 2 NL that is tough to do. Personally I make a tight fold here on the turn and maybe we got bluffed off but I dont think so. I dont think I am going against 77-1010 here based on all action including the turn so Im feeling Im beat here, fold and move on. [/QUOTE]

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