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Message: [QUOTE="teh_colonel_saigon, post: 5637470, member: 107240"] I agree with all said above. 5! jam. I assume you have a read on this villain- that he is a loose donkey. If not, then you have to reconsider your line. Against a usual UTG open `11% of hands you have to think even about your 3bet vs V's continuing range. OOP you may also want to call there as you are closing the action and will be OOP, plus you are decently ahead of V's opening range UTG. AKs is a def 3! for value, AKo can go either way. Once you decide to 3! you should have a plan facing a 4bet, and if this player is loose you should be 5! jamming on him with a hand that does very well against a wide 4! range. As for the hand as played, he 6! your 5!, anything other than shoving doesn't make sense. Let's look at the math. "[COLOR=red][B]UTG[/B] raises to 2.5 BB[/COLOR], [I]fold[/I], [I]fold[/I], [I]fold[/I], [I]fold[/I], [I]fold[/I], [COLOR=red][B]Hero[/B] raises to 9 BB[/COLOR], [I]fold[/I], [COLOR=red][B]UTG[/B] raises to 23 BB[/COLOR], [COLOR=red][B]Hero[/B] raises to 37 BB[/COLOR], [COLOR=red][B]UTG[/B] raises to 51 BB[/COLOR], [B]Hero[/B] calls 14 BB" At the time of the 6! the pot has 88.5 bb and you have 63bb remaining. A shove here needs 63 / (63 + 88.5) = 41.5%. But we know that V is never folding, so his stack will be in paly too. Our equation then is 63 / (63 + 88.5 + 49) = 31 %. If V is calling our shove with AK, QQ+, we have 38% equity and therefore a 7! allin is +EV. This move is preferable than shoving on any flop because we are allowing villain to pick good flops to continue on. The flop you shoved on was pretty wet, and as we saw, V actually had decent equity to continue. [B]Take-aways: [/B]1)UTG is usually very tight and we should respect their range, especially their 4! range. 2) 5! all-in is typical with a 100bb stack vs a 4bet 3) With fish that want to gamble, get the money in early as they will rarely fold (even if they do, we realize our equity with a non-made hand) [/QUOTE]

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