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Message: [QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 6175541, member: 397965"] The main reason, why we play draws aggressively, is to make better hands fold. So if you had a hand like JT of clubs, raising his donk bet on the flop would make a lot of sense. If BTN has a hand like A5 or 22-66, he is likely going to fold, and if you have J high, thats a great result. Here however you have top pair decent kicker, so you are never getting a better hand to fold, and you actually want BTN to call with worse, because then you are getting value. Per definition that mean, the only reasons to raise are for value and equity denial. There is some merit to that, but you have the main draw covered, so even if someone draw out on you on the turn, you still have a redraw. And if someone improve on a club, thats a great situation for you, unless of course they have the A or K high flushdraw. So I prefer just calling here. He essentially made your C-bet for you, and lets just leave it with that. Calling with QX of clubs also keep you better balanced. If you raise every single flushdraw on the flop, then you cant have a flush, when you just call, and it comes in later. This is not a big deal at 2NL, where most of your opponents are beginners, but its definitely something to consider, when you eventually move up to low or mid stakes. Which I am sure, you eventually will. So why not start taking the more "correct" balanced lines already now. Its not like, its significantly less EV in this particular situation even against fish. When he 3-bet you, I think, he almost certainly has a better made hand than yours, and that you are drawing. I also dont think, he is ever going to fold to a 4-bet, which by the way should be a jam. So I would just call and look to make some decisions on later streets depending on the runout and his actions. There is only going to be around a potter left, so on a brick turn I am probably hating life and folding, if he sticks it in. Which by the way is another reason to not raise and reopen the betting for him. With that being said I dont hate shipping it in here. You would be shipping 2,15$ more to win a final pot of exactly 5$. So even with no fold equity, its +EV, if you have more than 43% equity. And unless his range is only sets, which seem rather pessimistic, you probably have those 43%. You could occationally be against a hand like the nut flushdraw, which you actually beat, and even against two pair or a hand like AQ/KQ, you have some extra outs in top of the flush outs. So I am never folding here, and its only between calling or jamming. [/QUOTE]

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