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$2 NLHE 6-max: Playing Over-pairs on the Flop
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[QUOTE="teh_colonel_saigon, post: 5648037, member: 107240"] OK homie... a lot of people touched on the basics, so I'll have to reiterate those points as well because they are important. [B]Hand 1:[/B] I think QQ is only a flat vs an UTG open, and even then not 100% of the time. When you 3bet, you can do it [B]a)[/B] as a bluff or [B]b)[/B] for value against V's continuing range V will continue wider since he is in position and certainly with worse hands. On top of that he is short stacked- this is also a sign that he is a bad player at 2nl. :icon_porc As played, you now face a semi wet flop which V will check behind a good deal. Donking is a territory I don't know much about- there might be an argument for it but I don't mind the standard "procedural check." [I]I would do this with the intention of check-raising.[/I] There are many bluffs you can have on this board and you are doing well against V's range here. I'd 2bet bluff and call/jam over any flop 3bets vs a short-stacked fish. But, V checks behind. Alas! To the turn. The Js makes the board more connected... the J is really the only card you wanted to see (which is why donking/xraising would be good on the flop) since it can give V a pair worse than yours. I would lead out here or go for a large check raise. I think I personally would lean for a XR (not knowing the opponent) since V can bet out with a lot of his weaker hands here for protection once you show some weakness. :bandit: Again, this is a value hand for you and you've already missed 2 streets of value. The only problem is V is pretty weak, but if he has the A or K of spades he may call down. At best V has AJ. But since he is a bad player maybe he will call with Ax with the Ace of spades. On the river, the only realistic hand you beat is KJ and V might not even bet that depending on what type of player he is. Ax with the Ace of spades improved, and AJ made two pair. I'd lean towards a fold here. Well done.:star: [B]Hand 2: [/B]Set mining requires you make 10x your investment to book a profit. You literally cannot make that much as you are short stacked. You have position with a decent pair, but you are against two very strong ranges. You might even get squeezed some percentage of the time. I might be too nitty but I'd fold this pre unless I was at 100bbs. As played- you get to the flop, UTG donks, HJ calls and you are sitting there with an over pair. You likely have the best hand, but you still don't have a ton of equity since your opponents have 2 overs, likely one of them with a fd to go with it (meaning you are technically BEHIND here!). :eek: So, I like your raise. You should be planning to shove any turn that is not a club or a card J or higher (so shove T of hearts if it hits)- Gustav recommends shoving anyway, and there is some sense to that as well. If V is really that wide here it would work. You only need it to work about half the time due to pot odds. And thus your strategy actually worked if you think about it. Your raise got villain to cool down- he didn't fold, rightly though because he has so much equity. You are forced to shut down due to the Q, but any other card you'd be looking good. As played you checked it to show-down. If you had 100bbs I'd like this a heck of a lot more as there are huge implied odds in these 3bet pots. ------ General 3/4betting strategy ------ I'm still improving with 3/4bet pots myself... But you already identified that V in hand 2 is 3betting aggressively, and often with pocket pairs. I've seen players like that before, who overvalue a pair preflop and overplay it post flop. You will want to spend some time developing a counter strategy with some 4bet bluffs (very few, and only if V is folding to 4bets) and calling wider when in position. If they are pocket pair heavy, you likely can float many flops in position quite profitably. This particular opponent isn't too aggressive post flop (imagine if he raised that donk bet on the flop!) so he should be relatively easy to outplay, and in part you did well in that scenario. :D :driver: [/QUOTE]
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