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Message: [QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 6189649, member: 397965"] Preflop I would also complete with T9o. Flop In limped pots nobody have the initiative, so the standard approach of always checking out of position does not apply. We talk about “naturally checking to the preflop raiser”. We dont talk about “naturally checking to the preflop limper”. I personally do a lot of leading in limped pots, whenever I connect with the flop, and this hand certainly connect. The issue with check-calling is, it puts you in this passive position, where you allow them to control the size of the pot, and you typically always end up playing some kind of guessing game. Turn 3c is one of the better cards, we could hope to see, even though it did complete A5 and 65. As played a very standard check-call. River Now frontdoor spades come in, but I am definitely not going to fold top pair, when he bet less than 25% of the pot. Dont level yourself into thinking, that small bets are always fat value. This is definitely not true. He is a fish, and fish will sometimes bluff with this sizing, because its a cheap shot. Or they will bet an in between hand like A7 for no good reason. You say, you were thinking about MDF on the flop, but the river is, where the concept truly apply, because you either have the best hand, or you dont. And if you fold a lot to small river bets like this, you are simply not playing good poker. If he is bluffing you here, it only needs to work less than 25% of the time, so you need to defend with at least 75% of your hands, that get to the river this way. Not saying, that you always need to defend exactly 75%, and in real time we are not sitting and calculating it, while our time bank runs down. But for me this is just a snap call, and if he made a flush on the river, he is missing out on value by betting it so small. So I dont even care. I just pay the guy his 10c, make a note on him and move on to the next hand. [/QUOTE]

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