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Message: [QUOTE="Jamalex, post: 5981740, member: 441208"] Now that I think about it, I believe I saw a video blackrain79 did one time where he talked about flatting in spots like this is better then shoving...I believe I was mistaken then when I said never to flat the reraise. I think it was something like if your up against players who are just not going to fold then don't put your money in until you make your hand, just call call call. I still don't think I'm gonna fold here but I guess calling may have been the better option.:o Also even without the overcards we still have a gutterball too. [/QUOTE]