$2 NLHE 6-max: Fold a weak flush when getting raised?

[mzr]

Hi, I'm not sure what I should be doing with this weak flush in situations like these. Should I be folding here when I'm raised on the turn?


I'm a beginner player and lose most of my money to raises/all in situations like this.

After looking at my charts I realized 33 from UTG is looser than I should be playing, but I'm still interested in what you guys would be doing in this spot post-flop.


pokerstars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
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UTG: $2.34 (117 bb)
MP (Hero): $2.84 (142 bb)
CO: $2.36 (118 bb)
BU: $6.09 (305 bb)
SB: $1.52 (76 bb)
BB: $2.13 (107 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with 3♦ 3♣
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.06, 2 players fold, SB calls $0.05, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.14) 9♣ 4♣ 8♣ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.11, SB calls $0.11

Turn: ($0.36) Q♣ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.26, SB raises to $0.52, Hero raises to $2.67 (all-in), SB calls $0.83 (all-in)

River: ($3.06) K♣ (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $3.06 (Rake: $0.11)

Showdown:
MP (Hero) shows 3♦ 3♣ (a flush, King high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 47%, Flop: 3%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

SB shows T♣ J♣ (a straight flush, King high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 53%, Flop: 97%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

SB wins $2.95

 

[blueskies]

Ok to raise preflop and cbet the flop. Mixing in checking is fine too.

But, after he calls you on the flop bet and the 4th club comes on the turn, you need to shut down. In fact, even if the 4th club doesn't come, you should just check the turn on any card because you don't really have any fold equity and your 33 are not in good shape at all. Fold to any bet.

I mean you STILL had a chance to walk away when he check raised you, which should have been huge red flags that you are drawing dead. Instead you gave away your stack.

 

[Sidetracked]

Any time there are 4 to a flush on the board, you need to have a much higher flush than the 3 if money starts going into the pot.

I would probably fold the 3rd nut flush after being raised on the turn. And not be too happy about having the 2nd nut flush.

 

[Jarud]

Check fold this on the turn every time, the pot is small enough to just walk away and move to the next hand,
Are you shoving for value or as a bluff?
As others have said you hand is in terrible shape on a turn raise with a 4 card flush on.
Its seems like you are just really hoping that your opponent is bluffing or going nuts with a set or something, wait for better spots to get your money in.

 

[mzr]

Ok to raise preflop and cbet the flop. Mixing in checking is fine too.

But, after he calls you on the flop bet and the 4th club comes on the turn, you need to shut down. In fact, even if the 4th club doesn't come, you should just check the turn on any card because you don't really have any fold equity and your 33 are not in good shape at all. Fold to any bet.

I mean you STILL had a chance to walk away when he check raised you, which should have been huge red flags that you are drawing dead. Instead you gave away your stack.

Thanks for the reply, yeah I didn't really have a plan postflop. Need to learn to put down hands like this

 

[mzr]

Check fold this on the turn every time, the pot is small enough to just walk away and move to the next hand,
Are you shoving for value or as a bluff?
As others have said you hand is in terrible shape on a turn raise with a 4 card flush on.
Its seems like you are just really hoping that your opponent is bluffing or going nuts with a set or something, wait for better spots to get your money in.

Here I thought he was bluffing, and partly thinking that I can't lay down a flush ever. Thanks to responses here I think I'll be avoiding this stituation in the future.

Thanks for the reply.

 

[Jarud]

Here I thought he was bluffing, and partly thinking that I can't lay down a flush ever. Thanks to responses here I think I'll be avoiding this stituation in the future.

Thanks for the reply.

If you think he's bluffing then you can just bluff catch with your small flush, re-raising achieves us nothing because he will fold out his bluffs and call you with his nutted hands.

 

[Subel007]

Check fold on that turn

 

[Tigroslav]

Check the flop to keep it small and get a free card hopefuly catch a set
otherwise fold to any bet.

 

[Ryudo9999]

yea with 4 clubs if you dont have the ace i wouldnt call, if you do have the ace call. this is just my low level experience, but atleast u let him get a straight flush to brag about lol.

 

[Redman1902]

I would actually bet flop for ~1/2 to 3/4 bc you have a lot of fold equity + for protection and check down if called.

 

[julio gonzalez]

NHL2

hello. I saw the hand and for me you have played it very badly I would not make a tribet in utg with pair of 3 and if I do when I see the flop it is a fold without hesitation and I would never get allin on the river seeing those cards, but this is poker and These plays are learned. I think it has happened to all of us when we were beginners. good luck