$2 NLHE 6-max: Flopped flush, how do we play this for value town?

[Casey55]

pokerstars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 5 players
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UTG (Hero): $1.86 (93 bb)
CO: $5.32 (266 bb)
BU: $3.22 (161 bb)
SB: $2.58 (129 bb)
BB: $3.17 (159 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with A♠ 8♠
Hero raises to $0.06, CO calls $0.06, BTN calls $0.06, 1 fold, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.25) T♠ 4♠ 7♠ (4 players)
BB bets $0.12, Hero calls $0.12, 2 players fold

Turn: ($0.49) K♦ (2 players)
BB bets $0.24, Hero raises to $0.48, BB folds

This particular villain I noticed they like to lead/donk when they had top pair, so mostly likely top pair and better. After I raised so large I thought to myself I am getting them to fold out what I want to keep in, when I made the bet I was also thinking about missed value if another flush card comes and kills the action but also if villain has a set he can outdraw me so I chose to raise but I think I may have made a mistake in the sizing, I am basically trying to stack ppl at 2nl but maybe this was a mistake. Does he call this with a set? a weaker FD like Ks? thoughts?

 

[fundiver199]

Preflop
Standard open and 3BB is a fine size to use at the low end of the micros.

Flop
Heads-up I would fastplay and raise his donk bet. If you had a read, he is doing this with a lot of top pair, then its probably easier to get him to put money in now rather than later. However with two guys left to act behind you, I would just call and hope to induce action from them as well. If one of them raise, that absolutely fantastic, and even if they just call, it still help you build the pot. I would be more inclined to raise a lower flush, but with the nut flush specifically you need less protection, and you also block the main draw.

Turn
Given that you think, he has a lot of TX in his range, this was not a good card, since its scary to him. So I would just call again and look to put in some money on the river. You have position, so if he check to you, you can bet, and this looks much less strong than raising the turn. If he has something strong enough to call, he is also going to bet the river, unless another spade hits, and then you can put in your raise.

 

[Casey55]

Preflop
Standard open and 3BB is a fine size to use at the low end of the micros.

Flop
Heads-up I would fastplay and raise his donk bet. If you had a read, he is doing this with a lot of top pair, then its probably easier to get him to put money in now rather than later. However with two guys left to act behind you, I would just call and hope to induce action from them as well. If one of them raise, that absolutely fantastic, and even if they just call, it still help you build the pot. I would be more inclined to raise a lower flush, but with the nut flush specifically you need less protection, and you also block the main draw.

Turn
Given that you think, he has a lot of TX in his range, this was not a good card, since its scary to him. So I would just call again and look to put in some money on the river. You have position, so if he check to you, you can bet, and this looks much less strong than raising the turn. If he has something strong enough to call, he is also going to bet the river, unless another spade hits, and then you can put in your raise.

Ok so I guess were not too concerned about villains outs for a full house all that often? that's something I was worried about that made me want to raise

 

[fundiver199]

Ok so I guess were not too concerned about villains outs for a full house all that often? that's something I was worried about that made me want to raise

If he has a set or two pair, he is not going to fold to a turn raise, so if the board pair on the river, you are pretty much ****ed, and there is nothing, you can do about it. So your focus here should not be protection but value. And for sure raising with the nuts can never be that bad.

Its just a question of, how you think, his range is made up, and what will work best against different parts of that range. If he has a lot of very strong hands like worse flushes, sets and two pair, then raising is great. But if he has a lot of bluffs and/or medium strength hands like TX, that are still betting, then raising will just get him to fold and take away your chance to win more money on the river.

So my line suggestion here is very much based on the information, you gave about him, that you think, he is donking a lot of top pair hands. If you told me, that this player was a nit, and that he almost never donks, then I would assume, he had something very strong like a set or a worse flush, and I would be totally onboard with raising and going after his full stack.

 

[easy play]

Hand played correctly I guess. I might have called the Turn if I expected villain to lead on River as well. But raising looks fine as well. Just worth giving a thought if we will ever bluff raise.

 

[jaworek1405]

Hello, for me this hand was played good. On the flop we should play this flush slow, we want with flush implicate players behind us. On the turn I play a little bigger raise, because click back seems very strong. Besides on the turn we should play raise, because if opponent has some draws he usually will call our raise on the turn to see the river card. If we don't raise the turn card opponent can play check on the river, give up his hand and we can lose some value on the river. GL