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Message: [QUOTE="eetenor, post: 6206926, member: 385063"] Thank you for posting. As played stacking off on turn is fine. If the player is spazy then we want to lead flop more often than check it. 1/3 pot should get a spazzy player to raise us and we can try to get stacks in on the flop vs a spazy range. Check raising could get a spazzy player to fold some of the range they may just call down with. Weak Ax etc. When we check raise here we would want the V to have a strong heart draw but not to the nuts but the only good heart left is the K and if they do not have the Kh they can only have the 9h. The issue with getting all in on the turn is- after we check raise flop it is more likely the V has the Kh so we are tied and they are free rolling us. It is possible this player is soo bad that they play the naked straight this way but vs standard players most of the time we should be hating the Q turn. When we hate a turn card we do not want to get stacks in. Check calling or bet blocking 25% pot turn not betting large is a good play as even a spaz could be folding some of their range on a 3 flush 4 to a straight board when we bet big turn after a check raise. The check allows for spaz bluffs. We are never folding so if the spaz shoves turn after we check we call. Our goal in poker is to not take actions that help our V play better. Check raising this flop tells our V we are strong. Big betting turn does as well. It may not matter vs this V but vs standard V they may fold 2 pair on the turn. If you thought this V is never folding any of their range -which is what your turn sizing suggests- then we could 1.5 pot lead flop-shove turn on blank turns. As played our check raise can be much larger vs non folding V as well. Vs that type of V we would base our check raise size on the pot size not the V's bet size. Pot 44 our raise 30-34 range. If they really are spazy our check raise could be 1.5 pot. We want to pile chips in early in this spot as at 100bb deep vs a spaz we are getting stacks in as soon as possible expecting the spaz to not fold. Hope this helps :):) [/QUOTE]

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