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Message: [QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 6163105, member: 397965"] Preflop I am either calling or 3-betting here. Never folding. Flop When MP gives up his betting lead, I think, you are very likely to have the best hand. Sure once in while someone with have the last 5, or BB will have 88-TT, but mostly you should be ahead here. At the same time your hand is extremely vulnerable, since between them they can have as many as 12 outs to spike a higher pair. So I want to bet here mainly for protection, and I actually want them to fold overcards, or at least to get one of them to fold. So I dont like this very small sizing. Yes in theory you get value from hands like AT, when they call, but you make the rest of the hand very difficult to play. You put yourself into a reverse implied odds situation, where you are mostly going to lose money on future betting rounds. Bet 10-12c here and get them to fold those random overcards. Turn Now there is already an overcard to your pair, so your hand got worse, yet now you size up. This makes no sense. You say, you want them to fold hands like 88-99, but this is a really small part of their range, and people also hate folding full houses. So you dont have a bluffing hand. You have a showdown value type hand, which now you probably need to check, when both opponents are still in the hand. You do bet though and get min-raised. He is giving you a great price, but this is almost never a bluff. Either he slowplayed quads or pocket aces, or he hit the T, because you priced him in to do so. Unless he is on a stone bluff, the best case scenario is, you have 2 outs to improve. So even getting these great odds I think, your best play is to fold and not pay him off. River As played definitely folding now. [/QUOTE]

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