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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 6868314, member: 305911"] Im with the post above about min raising. All your raises pre flop when opening at 2NL should be 3x. We get 3 bet which the process should start here at range narrowing but with AK I would not be going anywhere. I generally wouldnt be 4 betting unless I thought I was 4 betting for value and villain could have AQ or AJ AND actually call with it. Its not listed in this post what we are thinking in regards to what villian would call our 4 bet with. I personally would not 4 bet here and have those hands fold out so I prefer just calling pre flop and seeing what happens even though we are out of position. We do 4 bet and if we are going to than I think we should be going a little bigger than 3x here to make sure we cut down on implied odds as we are out of position here. As played on the flop I dont get the smallish bet here. I suppose we are trying to keep KK and QQ in assuming those hands do not 5 bet pre but all the Ax hands will call and the risk that we are up against A8 or A5 is smaller since we 4 bet so we should go bigger. I think we can easily go 15-17 BBs here and potentially get called by KK or QQ and those hands shouldnt call 2 streets no matter what the flop sizing is so going small and then small again turn should not keep them in. Better to just try and get some value now and then also if we are up against AQ we have an easier time getting more later if we bet say 16 now compared to 11. Turn brings 2 diamonds and a little wetter board for straights nut no worries yet. Here I'd be thinking the big pairs than are less than mine are going to fold to any sizing I make it but the Ax will still call so to me, no reason to go small here. Yes there is some chance we are up against a set or A10 but if we think that way we will have a hard time picking up chips so I think villains hand is a lot of JJ-KK which folds no matter what size I make it and then AJ-AK which will call a lot of sizings. Im thinking in game I would make it 25-30 BBs and lean more towards the 30 BB sizing. River brings in the diamond flush. The Ace of diamonds is out there and we hold the K of diamonds so we must ponder what two diamond hand is 3 betting pre and then calling a 4 bet. Does Q10, QJ or J10 of diamonds do this... maybe but 7% 3 bet is not maniac-ial by any means so Im discounting those holdings and therefore am not too worried about the flush. With that thinking it comes down to what AQ and AJ would do if our opponent has them. Some villains would check those back in a hand like this with 3 diamonds out there. If there wasnt a 3rd diamond on the river I like checking to see if I could induce a bluff or a bet that maybe villain thinks they are making for value but here with a diamond, with a flush by my opponent discounted I think I value bet again and target AQ and AJ. I doubt those hands bluff raise due to the 3rd diamond and would have a hard time folding at 2NL. [/QUOTE]

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