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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 6746865, member: 305911"] Pre: When we raise pre here are we expecting to get a fold from UTG? If we are expecting the hand to continue mostly and not wind up a fold (which 3x is small is for a 3 bet here online so I think we will get called at the least often) then I think its very marginal at best to do this with 66 especially when effective stacks are so large. Your 3 bet may prevent a squeeze by someone behind but I dont think that outweighs the situation we are putting ourselves in against UTG. UTG 6 max is quite different, I understand that, but I think I just call here instead of 3 betting unless I know that my 3 bet has the ability to generate some folds. Flop: A flop with all lower cards which is great for 66 because not only do we have an overpair but we also have a gutter. I like betting here as you did and I would go on the bigger side as well thinking any two spades and a lot of Ax will call our bet here. We still could be up against a 77-99 type hand so I would not go off the deep end and go really big. I like the sizing you used here. Turn: Interesting card as it brings the straight for us, a straight for an Ace and also the flush. I think we should be betting for value here but I would not go as big as you did. The 77-99 probably wont call as often although still could but now we still dont know how good we are (before any betting anyway). We could easily have villain crushed straight over straight but flushes are present with how this hand has played. I would definitely bet here based on the 3 to a flush out there and value from Ax but I would not be acting like I have the nuts. So with that said, I would bet more like 40-45 cents here. Enough where I am still getting decent value from Ax, still (by far) charging for any one spade hands that want to continue, but not very very large in case I am up against it here. When we get raised, we have to go what we know about villain. What is their UTG opening range? Would they check raise here with Ax when there is a larger straight possible and also a flush possibility? Would they really want to play for stacks over 200 BBs deep without a flush much less the Ace high flush? I wouldnt think so and the problem is we are drawing dead to a flush so if we call, it would be a bluff catcher call and not one with any equity besides that. In game I would probably call turn but then fold river to the jam as villain should not want to go in that deep without the nuts. River: Slight overbet jam to the pot, I think we have to fold unless we know something about villain that would point to them knowingly bluffing here or over valuing Ax. Without that, this deep, we have to fold the river and if we really got outplayed here then we did but I doubt that is the case at 2NL. [/QUOTE]

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