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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 5753639, member: 305911"] I like calling pre flop instead of 4 betting as we have position with a hand that could flop well and we dont have a made hand yet. What are we doing when he 5 bets there? I would hate to be calling in that spot and hate to be folding in that spot so I would rather see the flop in position with a hand I like in a pot that is probably too big already. On the flop, villain does a weird lead here since he is leading into a 4 bettor. I am not sure why you would do that if you are very strong so I am already thinking they have something like QQ, JJ, 1010 where they are afraid of it. I like the call behind as I think a raise just folds out stuff we beat and I dont think he could be drawing to anything at this point other than a 2 outer. The turn vindicates what I am thinking about the flop. I think we can bet here but not really sure what we get called by that would have not bet to lead here. Checking back is the better play because it gives villain a chance to bluff on the river and give them hope that their non Ax or Kx hands have a chance. On the river you are missing potential value. I say potential because I am not sure they call with anything here but it is worth trying. Maybe they make a mistake and I dont see what could be beating us here. Very outside chance of 99 here but I think they would just jam the river if they had that and there are only two kings and two aces left to beat us. Cant see a world where they have 33 or 77 based on they shouldnt have that and their bet sizing on later streets. We checked the turn here hoping villain would make a play like this so we have to try to get all out of it that we can. We have 113 BB or so heading to the river and villain bets 50 of those. We need to be putting the other 63 in and hoping villain feels like they priced themselves in already and feel like they have to call. They probably dont call but I dont see a reason not to try to get these extra 63 BB when the hand combinations that are left that beat us and miniscule. [/QUOTE]

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