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Message: [QUOTE="Aballinamion, post: 5704534, member: 289533"] Lol, why didn't you raise 20 blinds? The question is why to use such a large sizings to play out of positions versus 60 VPIP whale, what is the point? If you raised that much (11 BB) and everybody folds, it sucks. If you raised that much (11 BB) and whale in position calls, it sucks too. The Preflop Both MP and BTN calls, now there is a pot of 35 blinds, and we are out of position in relation to the whales, sounds good? The postflop The Flop With such a huge ammount of blinds/risk involved, there is no point for exploitation out of position, no point in going for 2/3 pot, having information that Whale types are playing "faced-up" games, so they are going to call when they have us beat and fold when we have them beat, period. The Turn Preposterous move. Totally non-sense, because now Whale can call only with Kx, and hands that have us dead and fold all the rest. If we continue playing out of position, using exploitative lines such as this we are going to lose very much. I also don't see the point in turning a strong value hand (TT) into a bluff here: we own nothing but a pocket pair, no draws, nothing, we are just speculating our opponent is weak enough to be calling down with air or 99, 88, etc. PS: If you don't want to play 3 streets, for any personal reason, sit out of the table and go drink a glass of water. Once you decided to play poker, you gotta have solid reasons for your basic decisions, and not any excuse because "I didn't want to play 3 streets". It is possible that you win this hand, but I find it very hard to believe. Besides, we are not result oriented, we do the best we can with incomplete information, which is not the case. Regards; Carlos 'Aballinamion' Barbosa [/QUOTE]

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