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Message: [QUOTE="teh_colonel_saigon, post: 5650047, member: 107240"] Thanks for posting so many hands! The min raise UTG just hurts my brain! Argh! I think it's ok from the BTN, but even then you are asking your opponents to call wide. .22 is a good size... I do .25 from UTG and HJ and .22 from BTN. But enough on that. [B]Flop:[/B] If we acknowledge that CO can call wide, then 1/2 sizing is OK for a Cbet OOP. You very likely have the best hand. There is an argument for making it 3/4 pot here since I don't think V's range is elastic. Plenty of drawing hands that can call. [B]Turn:[/B] The T might be the worst card in the deck for you. After the flop bet, let's look at V's (likely) continuing range: [U] Queen pairs:[/U] AQ (8 combos-reasonable that he didn't 3bet you) KQs (6c) QJs (2) QTs (only 1 c left) [B]You chop with 6, beat 2, lose to 9[/B] [U]Other Value:[/U] JJ (6c), TT (3c), 99 (3c), 33 (3c) [B][B]You beat 6, lose to 9[/B] [/B][U]Draws + Other floats:[/U] JTs (3c), 9Ts (3c), KJs is in there I suppose, but if that's the case, size up to 3/4 for sure on the flop! KJs- 3c [B]You still beat 3c, lose to possibly 6. [/B]So it's looking bad. As Rajten said before, a bet is a little too thin for value, as there are only 2c of worse queens 6 of JJ to call you. Also, such a small bet is begging to be raised and JT can do that pretty exploitatively, also QJ. You can't exactly fold for that reason. I think this becomes a check call spot. Check out the micro grinders manual- it goes over those check-call, check-fold, and bet-fold spots pretty well. One easy way to identify this in game is by thinking about what worse hands can call- it's actually hard to do on this board! And if V is aggressive/loose, then [B]his betting range will actually be wider than his calling range.[/B] So you can call a reasonable bet (you also have outs to improve) and reevaluate on the river. [/QUOTE]

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