$10 NLHE 6-max: Low FH on River, All In?

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This is 6 max 10 NL on BOL.

First hand on table, I have the two black deuces on BB. Everyone folds, BTN limps in. I check. It's HU to flop.

Flop comes 2h 8c 4s. I check. He checks.

Turn's the 3s.

I lead out with 24c bet. He raises to 96c. I call.

At this point, I don't think he has 88, because I think (based on previous experience with him) he would have raised preflop. So in terms of set over set I am in trouble against 33 and 44. Plus, I think 65 or A5 is in his range. 34 type two pairs also possible and I think he would raise with two pairs.

River is the 8s giving me a FH. That's great for me if he has a str or just made a flush. However, if I was up against a set on the turn, the river changes nothing. I was thinking he probably didn't make a flush either because I don't think he would have raised the turn on a flush draw.

I check the river to let him bet again. He bets $2.05 into $2.17 pot. I considered just calling but last moment I decided to all in for my remaining $8.90 or so.

He tanks. The fact that he didn't instacall made me confident I had the better hand. He eventually calls.

He did have a straight, the wheel.

In hindsight, I was thinking would it matter if I raised smaller? Like would he call with a straight if the raise was smaller but fold to my shove? Especially since the river completes a flush, giving a str less reason to call. If he has a flush, he probably calls my shove regardless, but then he probably wouldn't have raised the turn like that on a flush draw. Or is it better to bet the river?

BOL only gives you like 10 seconds so I don't think I thought everything through before I shoved. He could very well have 33 or 44 as played.
 
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Just a few things,

On the flop its btn vs your limped bb - I dont think you need to wory about checking here. You should almost always be leading the turn if you hit relatively well on the flop.

If your opponent is limping the btn with the plan to fold to a 1-2 bb bet if he doesnt smash the blind, you should 100% be leading here.

Will villain really limp 88 or 44 on the button? I imagine thats an open...

Either way, your flop check is the only decision thats up in the air.
 
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by the turn raise we can put their range on A5, 56 or 33, but when they pot a paired river im guessing a better FH (33) so i would just call there

by check raising all in on river it look more like a bluff than a raise for value, so for me shoving is better than just min raising
 
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Against a player that open limps on the button, it probably doesn't matter a lot. Checking and leading out are probably close in terms of EV on both the flop and the turn. Against loose passive players I'm more likely to lead than to check, but in either case it's a judgement call.

You kinda answered your own question here. To shove or not to shove the river. Against players that call any amount with a straight or a flush, you obviously want to get the money in. Considering this particular player ended up calling with the worst possible straight, getting the money in was very much the right call.

You're obviously asking if this play is generally applicable, and I would say yes. Especially in the micro's people have a hard time laying down straights and flushes even on paired boards. If you're playing deeper, you might even get away with massive overbets in similar situations but with larger SPRs.
 
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