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Message: [QUOTE="pokeherface, post: 5652157, member: 394073"] I think against an unknown its fine but against good loose aggressive or known maniacs I would lean to calling using at least top2pair here to call against unknowns its a bvb its even more likely he will call with 78s 88 77 even if he he has 9Ts here he still has a lot of equity in this case you dont beat anything but flush draws with the way the hand was played you dont always need to be betting turn here you can slowdown and bet r. small on any non 3rd flush card to (to pot control and also get more value from hands like 99-JJ AJo/s) if he raises river its a clear fold but they're even less likely to bluff missed draws on the river [/QUOTE]