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Message: [QUOTE="loafaBREAD, post: 6438646, member: 440287"] Versus MP's min open I'd still fold this pre at 10nl. Rake3 is too damn high! But we can discuss what to do with [B][I]hands like this [/I][/B]vs MP on a board like this. [B]Consideration 1: [/B] Donk betting On this board BB v many positions, we have more sets, straights than our opponent. We can work in a donking range mixed with very good hands, mixed hands, and garbage hands to put our opponent in a tough spot. On 3 [IMG alt="club4.gif"]https://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif[/IMG] 6 [IMG alt="club4.gif"]https://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/club4.gif[/IMG] 4 [IMG alt="diamond4.gif"]https://pokertools.holdemmanager.com/images/emoticons/diamond4.gif[/IMG] we have 33, 44, 66 and V may only have 66 (since he is 23/18). We also have 57s and V does not. Therefore we have a range advantage. [B]Consideration 2:[/B] XC or XR We check and V bets 3/4 pot, which tells us he is playing a polarized strategy. He is probably betting most of his overpairs, 66, and his weaker flush draws without showdown value. He could also have suited connectors of diamonds or clubs he fires, and/or single club broadway combos without showdown value. Versus this betting range it makes a lot of sense to check-raise this hand as we get many better hands to fold. However, we have a range advantage here with many value hands that will be check-raising. For example, how large would we size a raise with:5h4: :7h4: ? Minor point, but I would go a [I]little [/I]larger here to represent your wide value range and allow for more bluffs. I think 3x is a minimum, but between 3x-4x is good. Turn play after XR: The turn is the :qd4:. The Q itself favors V's range, as he flats your raise with Qx of clubs and QQ. Really, you only have Qx of clubs that xr the flop, so a few combos at most. So, our next question is- what hands bet (and how big?) what hands check call and what hands check-fold? (forgetting about a double check raise for now!) Barrelling hands have good equity and good blocker/unblocker properties. For vlaue, we have our sets and straights, and new tp... I would prefer a Tc or Jc here to block v's continuing range is draws and some of his tp. (I'm also assuming V would call turn with TT and JJ) Kc is also good, and you should have much Ac, but that as well can bet. For sizing, I'd go near pot to set up a river shove. With this hand, I'd check-evaluate. I don't like having an 8c since v with fold 88 on the turn to a bet. [/QUOTE]

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