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Message: [QUOTE="SpanRmonka, post: 7190064, member: 429759"] I haven't run this, but I would say no, its def not a call, you are almost certainly up against AK QQ KK or AA, the very best case, say KQs, JJ, AT or some such hands. Now you're still losing to pocket pairs, but dominate some hands. There is of course a huge pot to be won and then maybe you are in a great position to go deep. So, if this is under your average buy in, I think you maybe sometimes call, but if not then no, you should never even consider it! How many player 4 bet with less than QQ AKo??? [/QUOTE]