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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 6446852, member: 305911"] Pre as already mentioned is just a call as you did. On the flop I like just calling here because the villains bet sizing is large and I would expect them to have a hand then that is either quite strong or is bluffing to take the pot. I dont want to the bluffs to fold out and let them off the hook easily and the stronger hands I would presume would double barrel and my plan would be to check raise the turn. Some would say if you think villain is strong then go ahead and raise now. First they could still be bluffing with this sizing so I dont want to stop them from hanging themselves and if they are strong I want villain to think to themselves there is no reason why I dont have the best hand right now. A check raise on the flop should heighten their senses and could make them slowdown, even with a hand like a big pocket pair. I do see the argument that Fundiver brings up about 99-1010 type hands that will shut down if a large card comes on the turn but I am still willing to risk that if I think it gives the best shot to get the most chips whether villain has a good hand here or a weaker hand here. The turn is one that I am checking in game planning to check raise. It does suck when villain checks behind but I just dont have a lot of natural leads here (right or wrong) so I personally am hoping they continue. I would use my stats at this point as well since many players seem to have a tendency to check turn or have the tendency to double barrel so depending on what I know would make me lean a certain way. Generally speaking though I would be checking here hoping to have the chance to check raise. River is very important in these spots where we have a good hand but the board dramatically changes with the river card. First thing I think of, and what I thought of before seeing the results, is Im checking here a lot. My reasoning is that I dont think villain will call with much worse since we know with the second club coming on the turn and them then checking behind that they dont have (or shouldnt have) a set, two pair or Jx. I think villains hand here is a flush or nothing even before they made the large bet on the river. Therefore, even with my hand being a strong as it is I dont think Im getting called by anything I beat when and if I led here so I am turning my hand into a bluff catcher (just a bluff catcher that I would be very confident in). Second reason I would not lead here is I would ask myself how good do I feel if I get raised here? It would not make me feel too good and might have to fold so its better for a few reasons to check here and then bluff catch almost all sizings on the river. [/QUOTE]

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