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Message: [QUOTE="primrose, post: 7128754, member: 1036998"] Preflop you have to raise much bigger, maybe 8BB. Yeah, so the classic "do you fold an overpair on a paired board" question. If someone raises all-in on such a board, especially against multiple people, then I'm folding (have lost several big pots not doing this). If someone open shoves for a normal amount I'm usually calling. However this is neither of those things; this is an absurdly large open shove. I have zero data points on this, but now I'm interested in looking at the spoiler. I think I'm folding though; if it's preflop then these super large open raises are very strong, so probably on the flop they are as well. [/QUOTE]