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Message: [QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 6645808, member: 397965"] Preflop Against an EP open I do often just call with AQs from the blinds. But in this situation there is both a limper and a field caller, and if you just call here, the limper will for sure call as well, which mean, you allow 3 players to see a flop with position on you and realise their equity. Thats not great, so even though you could be behind to MP, I much prefer to 3-bet this hand and drive some players out. If MP 4-bet, that will suck, but you can still fold, and if he really has AK or KK, that can allow you to get away from a cooler situation relatively cheaply. Flop Checking to the preflop raiser is standard, and when he also check, we can pretty much rule out, that he has you beat. The field caller now bets, and the situation is still a bit like, what it was preflop. If you just call, you allow three players to see a cheap turn and potentially draw out on you. It not the wettest board, but between them they can still have a lot of different outs. So I kind of want to check-raise this and be willing to stack off. If someone has A7 or A8 and got there, you sort of allowed that to happen with your passive line preflop. Turn Now you lead, and this dont make much sense to me, when you check-called the flop. If you were not willing to get it in on the flop, then why are you willing to get it in now? 5s did not help you, and it could potentially have helped someone else. River At this point you only have around a half pot sized bet left. UTG+1 has taken nothing but passive actions throughout the hand. Limp-called preflop, called the flop, called the turn. So right off the bat I dont think, there is any reason to assume, he will bluff, if you check to him. Which mean, that the reasonable lines now are either jam or check-fold. For a jam to be profitable, you need to be good more than 50% of the time when called. Its difficult to say without reads, but there are still some hands, that might pay off. AJ, AT, A9. Maybe even A6 or A4, if he is really bad. Its tough to say without reads, but it is getting a bit thin. So its probably a check-fold spot. Check-folding does not mean, we give up. A big part of the idea is, a player like this will typically be very honest. Meaning that if we have the best hand, he check back, and we win at showdown. And if he bet, that means, we are beat. But from a theoretical standpoint, if we arrive on the river with a hand as strong as top pair second kicker, and our best play on a brick is to check-fold, then we probably did something wrong on the earlier streets. [/QUOTE]

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