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Message: [QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 6876506, member: 305911"] I did not so here it comes Pre Flop: I would never limp here with any hand in my range. If you were a player that dabbles in limps in their game and mixes them in then you could limp AA and KK but other than that it would be a no and since we shouldnt be open limping pre flop anyway except in some spots (like maybe button limps off of certain stacks which I am not going to get into) I just say dont limp here and damn sure not with 94 suited. If we were hero and made the mistake of open limping here with this hand I would just pitch it to a raise over 3x basically everytime. Flop: There are sometimes where Kx bets here and Kx checks here depending on what they think of hero. Since we are the hero and we know what we have then I would discount villain having a flush draw based on the sizing villain uses and also the fact that we have two clubs. We as hero should know that our flush draws are discounted in value here since the board is paired. Not only is it paired but its cards that hit a raiser over a limpers range (like K and Q). If this flop was 223 or 449 then its a little different than KKQ. Hero also needs to know they have only a 9 high flush draw so that also de-values it from a normal flush draw. Lets also factor in that if villain has 88-JJ type hands that could raise pre, they arent putting any more money in this hand after the flop were we to call or raise so our implied odds are even less than if we had a 223 board or of course other boards. Given all that and its a half pot bet I would just fold in heros position as played. Turn: Flush comes in and villain fires less as a sizing down to a little over 1/3rd. Now if I was hero I would really be thinking villain does not have a flush (and at this point let may say for what villain has, their sizing is bad here as they should want hero in the hand to have a flush and pay them off yet they go small when it comes in and leave more than pot size on river). I would also think all those 88-JJ hands are out the window as they would not continue on turn. So that leaves two prime cards, K and Q, that hit villains pre flop range, and we have taken out a lot of their other value hands or perceived value hands. The Qx and Kx in villains range might continue but I think they also check here at times too. As played if you got this far I guess I would call but Im not loving it and I would not be in the hand at this point playing it this way. River: This is one of the worst cards in the deck, we wouldnt want any ace nor any clubs as another club would deter action/put us behind. The ace gets AK there which is definitely possible for villain to have. Now villain over bets pot and we just called two streets prior on a board where the flush got there on turn. What is hero thinking villain has? If they are doing this with a flush and my initial read was wrong then its a flush that is bigger than 9 high. If its not a flush then its a boat since I would think even AQ would know here they are behind or at least would be behind if hero was to call 3 bets. What hero has here is a bluff catcher and Im not sure how many bluffs you will see here (villain dependent) but there is so much on this board unless villain knows we can fold a flush but thats an interesting line to start taking on the flop which where that line would have to begin. The Kx hands that villain would have that raise pre are probably KJ, KQ, and AK which all got there except KJ which I still think potentially throttles down here on river and buff catches themselves. I believe given the sizing villain uses, deducing their holdings starting from the pre flop raise, and the actual board there just isnt enough here (not even close unless villain always bluffs) to consider calling an overbet on the river with heros hand. Its a fold and its a fairly easy fold imo. [/QUOTE]

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