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Message: [QUOTE="Poker_Mike, post: 6696873, member: 268319"] Andy - you have posted some interesting threads for hands you lost. What I really like is that you include your "thinking" or poker logic - reasoning of what you did on every street. And honestly I find your logic reasonable. In fact I have lost hands the exact same way. But we don't want to lose these hands - especially the large number of chips - so.... I want to start with some obvious things.... You are playing out of position....not my favorite position to play from - and it explains how you lost so many chips. You are choosing to battle on the river. As you know - the more cards that come out - the more of a chance your opponent has to make a strong hand. If the board didn't help you - then there is a good chance it helped him. I have done these things too - not trying to be hyper critical of you or your play. Now to answer your questions from my perspective.. [LIST] [*]What would you do PF here? - ***I'm ok with the flat because you are shortish and OOP. [*]Would you opt for a raise on flop or a donk on turn? ***Either of these would be ok if you are sure you are ahead. But my question - if you really think you are ahead - do you want him to fold? For example a check shove on the flop would encourage a fold. And also now we know that his 1 BB bet on the flop was a weak bet. So he likely would have folded and you would have picked up a few BB. [*]Should I have checked the river to him? ****This question points out that he is in position and that is strong for him because he decides to check the turn to try to catch an Ace or straight card. And "bink" he gets his miracle card on the river and exploits your confusion about his weak play.....because he hits his nuts on the river. If you checked the river and he shoved would you have called to exploit his "obvious bluff" - which now we know was not a bluff - was the nuts! [/LIST] [/QUOTE]

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