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Message: [QUOTE="dallam, post: 6747431, member: 338743"] This spot is not easy at all for sure. And when you are in the moment, it could take time to overthink. As an UTG 25bb open pocket pairs in a limited number like 77+, J10+ suited hands or KQ+ overcards could appear, at least this is what a low buy-in could handle. As long as you beat some of them pre, the whole table is still left to act, and of course the original agressor. So if you put a 3-bet as you did, which is definitely a strong move to the others, if everyone apart from UTG moves in, you actually had to fold like all the time if the stack size is up above somewhere your 1/3. But if you isolate well, and original agressor still put in, without a note you are risking half of your stack. So in this case, to avoid the collusions 3-bet is not something you wanna do. If you call, and someone do make a 3-bet in a later position, we have great read now that this is something more than capable to broke us, so we only loose 2bbs. Which is not a significant number of the 50bbs, as we could pick up sets or straights still. There are two concepts which I would overthink here in long-term: - If we're folding here pre; we are avoiding possible collusions with the table. We save ourselves from acting out of position with a mediocrate pair, and also respect the range of the UTG and both of the big amount of players, who are left to act. Cause to any 3-bet from anywhere, we are in a bad shape, and more likely chasing. - Also 50bbs is a lot, almost two times more than the average stack. Our mission is to control parties, hunt positions and stacks to be able to strenghten ours. So we are not in risk, or don't have to take uneseccary risks. So only my idea, but at a 11$ buy-in where the average is around 30bbs or a little more, folding TT is not bad. If the table is 6-max, it's a call. Otherwise we can go to see the flop pretty blind. And in this case the low flop could result us to loose half of our stack, when we already knew that UTG min-bet should have the Aces f.e. [/QUOTE]

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