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[QUOTE="300HPGOD, post: 6918196, member: 305911"]
Fundiver's original post is spot on from start to finish.  This is a jam pre unless you know something about the villain.  On the flop, I think its a very simple check jam spot as was also mentioned.  The interesting point in this hand is the turn obviously which I believe if hero played pre or flop correctly there would have been no turn.  However, we got to turn and we got there by leading the flop.  I would not be leading on the flop but if I were to I would not back off at this point.  There is plenty worse that could feel committed here (as villain has already put in 1/3rd of their stack already going to turn) including a ton of draws.  I dont think there is any hand that villain would have on the turn that would check back after being checked to.  They would either turn a worse hand than Jx into a bluff, bet all their draws,  and also bet their stronger hands as well.  When we check here we just put ourselves in a really bad spot in a hand that we should have all the chips in the middle anyway by now.  I will say the villains sizing is interesting and would not make me think its a bluff in game but I dont feel like I would be at this point in the hand.
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