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Message: [QUOTE="eetenor, post: 6481964, member: 385063"] Avoided looking at the results- What does your Villains do with 2 pair on that flop? Raise right? Not always but most often- So when called our V have draws and sometimes sets- one of the draws got there and a back door flush card makes another draw and the hands we are beating are Ax weak and Tx with a gut shot so why are we betting pot? Why try to get folds when our hand improves and AX rvr two pair pays us off and Tx rvr two pair pays us off-We want to get value from a wide range here pot sizing does not do that. Looking at results now- Set played exactly as a set plays at this level- This is why we do not pot bet the turn- we pot commit ourselves and our V's actions will be nuts or near nuts a majority of the time-as played vs a pot turn bet. It may not matter at this skill level but our pot sizing also signals we do not have AA or KK study points that may help you We want to get very good at board reading and understanding nut advantage and range advantage AK on AT6 is not the nuts AT A6 TT 66 then AK- all of the nut hands are possible on this flop as played by your V preflop at this skill level On this board we do have the range advantage vs BU-however when we half pot bet flop on this board 3 way the BU range condenses considerably more than ours -we need to consider that when we choose a turn sizing- not to fear the nuts but to understand what our value targets are-when we make two pair we want to be called wider not tighter- but we have to be aware as well that the nuts on the turn is a straight the second nuts are those pesky sets so we want to choose a value/protection sizing. When the V shoves on turn we have to pick a hand that is behind AK that did not raise the flop but now when we could have AK KK AT QJ wants to get all-in We are blocking AT A6 KT K6 We have AX hands in our range why would they shove a turned heart draw on this board after we pot committed ourselves? It is a very helpful exercise to really drill down on this hand and think deeply about ranges on the turn based on the BU calling a 3 way flop [/QUOTE]

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