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Message: [QUOTE="Chiefer, post: 1460172, member: 15457"] Amen AF! Amen! Bonds couldn't hold a canle to Clemente, or Robinson, or Mantle, or Mays, this list goes on and on and on. Those guys played in an era that was shall we say, different, however, they would still be HOf'er had they played today. That's the difference. Those guys could play in any era, not just thier own. Guys like bonds had to cheat to get his name up in light with the likes of those guys. What pisses me off, is guys like say, Andy Van Slyke, who played for the Pirates, he was a hard nosed, clean baseball player. Never cheated, never did anything but play the game right and to the best of his ability, yet nobody mentions guys like him. NO. Everyone talks about Bonds and Big Mac and Sosa and blah blah blah. I'll tell you one thing about Sosa. I had a run in with that guy, he's not the nice guy everyone thinks he is. Those guys cheated thier way into greatness. It's sick is what it is. [/QUOTE]