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Message: [QUOTE="vinnie, post: 2101170, member: 95995"] I think it should be noted that PT4 (and presumably PT3) will consistently undervalue your "All-in Equity" on Bovada hands. Because the database can see all the cards held by the players, it will calculate your equity based on which players were active on the round you got all-in on. It won't calculate it based on who actually got all-in. So, if you and another player get all-in pre-flop, your equity will be calculated against all the players who were dealt cards (even if they folded to the BB). If you get it all-in on the flop, every player who saw the flop with you will be considered when calculating your equity (even if they fold to the shove). Here's an example hand for the second situation: [b]PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 6 players[/b] [i][url=http://www.pokertracker.com]Hand converted by PokerTracker 4[/url][/i] [b]UTG: 144.4 BB[/b] [b]MP: 100 BB[/b] [b]CO: 264 BB[/b] [b]BTN: 38 BB[/b] [b]Hero (SB): 113.7 BB[/b] [b]BB: 81.9 BB[/b] [b]Hero[/b] posts SB 0.5 BB, [b]BB[/b] posts BB 1 BB [b]Pre Flop:[/b] [i](pot: 1.5 BB)[/i] [b]Hero[/b] has 7:heart:7:diamond: [i]fold[/i], [i]fold[/i], [color=red][b]CO[/b] raises to 3 BB[/color], [i]fold[/i], [b]Hero[/b] calls 2.5 BB, [color=red][b]BB[/b] raises to 7 BB[/color], [b]CO[/b] calls 4 BB, [b]Hero[/b] calls 4 BB [b]Flop:[/b] [i](21 BB, 3 players)[/i] 7:club: 2:club: 8:spade: [b]Hero[/b] checks, [color=red][b]BB[/b] bets 8 BB[/color], [color=red][b]CO[/b] raises to 18 BB[/color], [color=red][b]Hero[/b] raises to 41.5 BB[/color], [color=red][b]BB[/b] raises to 74.9 BB and is all-in[/color], [i]fold[/i], [b]Hero[/b] calls 33.4 BB ---------------- As you can see, only the BB and myself get all-in. The results show the following equities: Hero 7:heart:7:diamond: (Pre 15%, Flop 68%, Turn 95%) Big Blind K:heart:K:diamond: (Pre 40%, Flop 5%, Turn 5%) The flop should be: 91% to 9%. I couldn't figure out what was going on. Until I added the CO's hand into the mix. The CO had 4:club:3:club:! Now I see the right numbers. The pre-flop numbers are also off (should be 19% to 81%). This isn't a major deal, but it's something you may want to be aware of if you use the EV line in evaluating your own play. [/QUOTE]

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