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Message: [QUOTE="skaterick, post: 6641610, member: 141961"] i learned about 'how deep the needle ' back in the late 70's.... nothing new about it. as poker became a bit more respectable negative table behavior came to be penalized( stalling , profanity, insults ,dealer abuse , etc ) and it was, thankfully . now with for profit streams trying desperately to gain exposure + viewership almost anything seems to be allowed once again .its all about the ratings . [/QUOTE]