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Message: [QUOTE="Four Dogs, post: 6478365, member: 2668"] I haven't read through the entire thread so maybe someone already commented on this but in regards to "knowing you opponents cards", you don't have to. IF she were cheating, and that's a big IF, the easiest way to pull this off would be some form of vibrator (no jokes please) that would simply alert her to whether or not she were ahead or behind. So, someone else would have information and simply convey it to her is some fashion that was not obvious to anyone but her. I watched Doug Polks take on it, Probably WAS Cheating, and Daniel Negreanu's NOT as well as Jonathan Little's also NO. With the Mike Postle cheating scandal still fresh in our minds I can certainly understand Garrett being suspicious, and if this hand were against another Pro or even a good Rec, I might start to lean slightly towards the PWC camp as played this hand made zero sense! And her explanations made no sense either: "I put you on Ace High" So you called with Jack high? "I thought I had a 3" But you looked at your cards before you called. "If my Jack wasn't a club I wouldn't have called". The jack being a club was a reason to FOLD, not to CALL. Holding an opponents possible draw card makes it more likely that he's betting for value. "this is a pure bluff catcher". So did you think you had a small pair or not? But the word salad is in no way indicative of cheating but IMO more in line with her being nervous and uncomfortable sitting at a table full of men, all of which are clearly more experienced than she was all the while Garrett grilling her and giving her the Evil Eye. So if PNC than why return the money? Garrett claims she offered and he accepted taking that as admission of guilt. She claims she was cornered, intimidated and pressured by Garrett Ryan Feldman and Nick Vertucci to return the money as a way to "diffuse" the situation. Garrett denies making the ask but Feldman and Vertucci have corroborated her version of the story. According to both, Garrett initiated the pay back by suggesting the "only way" to make this right was for her to return the money. Wow, talk about burying the lead! THIS should not have been allowed to happen and IMO was the greatest injustice of the entire fiasco. Granted the hand was suspicious but as of yet there is not the slightest bit of evidence of cheating and no credible mechanism for how it would have been done. Yes, Hustler Live should do its due diligence and undertake an investigation which may or may not bear fruit regardless of the truth of the matter. That said, Garrett was wrong to ask and wrong to accept and Hustler was wrong to allow it on their premises and indeed wrong to even allow her to be put in that position. Very interesting story though. Really perked me up. [/QUOTE]

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