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Message: [QUOTE="DS3, post: 6403740, member: 407846"] Which is why I noted that counting cards is not against any law. Casinos simply do not like a punter having the skill set to play with an advantage against the house. Regarding the casinos in Nevada, I was talking in the context of the WSOP and the right to exclude players by various parties... In 2016 the Nevada Supreme Court adopted the majority common law rule that casino establishments are to be open to the general public but have the common right-law right to exclude any individual from the premises pursuant to the majority common-law position. That position, of being able 'to eject any person from the premises of the establishment for any reason'' was being challenged unsuccessfully. In terms of players potentially suing, you might be correct of this being less likely by blackjack players than poker players. After all blackjack players are generally low profile and prefer to keep it that way whereas some poker players are well known and perhaps feel inclined to protect their image. However, recent history would not indicate that poker players who have been banned or had funds confiscated (which would apply to both Ali Imsirovic and Jake Schindler online and live at Monte Carlo and Madrid) are not so inclined. In fact Shindler refused to even say anything after his win at the 50K High Roller likely because he knew he would be asked about the online bans. I now think a blacklist is unlikely. However, what I said at the outset of these cheating threads is a position could have been taken and people could have followed the EPT/PokerStars. A strong message could have been sent without the most draconian of measures taken. As noted, for one thing the WSOP could have banned players for the WSOP 2022 without naming them (or as also noted Paris and Ballys banned them). I also suggested previously that if the casinos wanted to allow them to play 'privately' in high stakes games rather than tournaments then maybe they should. Then other players could decide whether or not they wanted to play them. However, I'll maintain there are some serious issues with truly exposing the cheating and how it took place that several parties are leery of detailing. And that plays a role in why I believe there will be an aversion to implementing a blacklist at this point. [/QUOTE]

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