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Message: [QUOTE="fundiver199, post: 7132183, member: 397965"] Strictly speaking we want to know our equity against the opponents range, but counting outs is a first step in determining this, which we can perform in real time. But an out is not just an out. If he have: :kc4::9c4: on :qh4::jh4::4s4: then we have 4 outs to a straight and 3 outs to top pair. But sometimes hitting those outs will not give us the best hand. :10s4: will give us a straight, but if the opponent has :as4::kh4: they will have a better straight, and we are most likely going to lose a big pot. :kc4: will give us top pair, but if the opponent has :as4::10d4: they will now have a straight, or they could have :as4::kh4: and have us outkicked [/QUOTE]