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[QUOTE="MaDaMan, post: 2019682, member: 93563"] Indeed i saw Hellmuth's last moments when he tries to behave,but the moaning through his teeth "these players aren't very good" is just the same wolf in sheep's clothing. Saying that he hasn't done it in years doesn't explain much from my point of view. I consider it like "hey that guy gets drunk and started beating up on his wife for several years, but for the past year or so he's behaving better". Let him do that for 5 years at least and then i will have NO problem to put him into the best players top. He did win 13 bracelets and he really was remarkable, but ever since he started being on TV he just dives into hands knowing he is beat, only to rant on about how players suck and calling them names. I've had 2 moments when i liked him or sympathized with him. First was seeing him be verbally abused by Tony G several times. That was total bullshit. The second one was seeing him go into fetal position. He could have ranted, he could have done lots of things,but he expressed it like that. I'm not sensitive, i don't cry when it rains or feel the pain of every dolphin, but that was the first and only moment that i truly admired him as a poker player. To have so much desire and passion is truly remarkable. He knew he was on TV, he knew people would go crazy over the media and the internet,but he did what he felt because he loves the game THAT much. Seeing that made me respect him,because he truly loves poker. [/QUOTE]
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