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Message: [QUOTE="Grumbledook, post: 363513, member: 24"] Its not that strategy I play with. I've just told him to be more patient and play against the table rather than relying on your own hand all the time. If its easier for him to let go of hands by calling preflop rather than raising and going bust then its a step in the right direction. Of course I punish anyone following this strategy, nothing I love more than to take limped bets preflop. I'd say you always want to raise preflop with QQ and KK, if your getting fishy callers then try larger raises and shoving on the flop (be careful of an Ace on the board tho). Ok you will still get sucked out or outflopped on occasion, but its often good to just take a pot rather than building it up and losing it. Well its always better to take the pot than lose it but I tihnk you know what I mean. [/QUOTE]