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Message: [QUOTE="UkoChebuko, post: 5750360, member: 353461"] Ok, I will try to explain. I assume you never played tournaments. Or you never learned or think for the game in the tournaments. Two things for the AI raise. If the guy is kinda "normal" (like in this case) 1. The people like the hand, the equity vs your calling range. But they also want FE. 2. The hand have pure playability. Two things about the NAI raise. 1. The hand ussualy is strong. They are not "afraid" from your call with your entire range. They will like the FE as well, but they actually don't care, "whatever". 2. The hand have good playability. Ok, I think it is pretty clear, why the NAI raise ussually is stronger than the AI raise. What about your hand!? 88 have monstrous equity vs 100% range, ATC. Not so good equity vs "real" ranges for 3bet. That's why this solver "likes" 88 so much. This is "a top range" in "his eyes". Not in reality. 88 always will have "acceptable" equity vs "real" ranges, at least AK is in this range. You hand have very poor playability. Vs ranges without small pocket pairs (most likely), you hand have zero playability. What is the meaning for all this!? First, if he shoves preflop with 35bb, your hand will be stronger than if he do this NAI 3bet. As I said, I don't think your equity is enough for shove vs NAI 3bet. Also there is a rake. Will be, if your have good FE. But I don't think so. Will be, if he do that with small pocket pairs often. Again, I don't think so. The call...Your hand have zero playability, his hands most likely have very good playability. You will be "blind", he not. Very often you will make a mistake (fold or call), he not. If you have hand like KQs or even JTs, then the things will be different. You are not "blind" OTF.... [/QUOTE]

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