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[QUOTE="Four Dogs, post: 387331, member: 2668"]
TPTK. Oh that's what you meant? lol, I had to work that one out too. Rob, I almost agree with calling/ betting because of the pot odds. But I've still got a problem with this. First off, the pot odds are really more like 2:1. Except for scooby, we're all talking about a an all-in bet that will certainly be called. So, JL will bet $19 and Proplayer WILL match the last $5. Bringing the pot to an expected $38 +/- before the all-in bet. If Pro had the most likely holding, 2 pair or a set, then you are now drawing to 2 outs and are the 11:1 underdog. Nowhere's near what is needed to call.

Aside from that, I'm starting to have a problem with pot odds in general. Something seems to be missing from the equation. Variance I think. I'm not ready to get really involved with it at this point, but I think in many cases, pot odds should be weighed against your future prospects of making up the difference in later hands with solid play and a reasonable chipstack. Most of us don't have unlimited bankrolls, or are unwilling to reach for our wallets everytime we risk our entire stack when we're 2:1 underdogs just because we had the pot odds. Slow and steady wins the race. If your a steady winner anyway, why not wait 'till you have a real lock, better than a pair anyway, to vie for the big pots. I think this is what Bill means by a pot growing unmanagable.
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