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[QUOTE="Four Dogs, post: 386905, member: 2668"]
I see the point about calling or pushing with the slight edge. Given an unlimited bankroll, 2% EV is still EV, and if you could see his cards this would be true. But you can't. The problem here is that, with the uncertainty of his holding, it's not really 2%.

For some reason, everyone but me seems to be of the opinion that, given no information at all on your opponent, its safer to assuming he's bluffing, or underestimating the value of his hand. It's my experience that in most cases, this type of bet means exactly what it's supposed to mean.

J.L.'s betting pattern was representing nothing less than top pair. Proplayer had no reason to believe that his over the top bet would not be called. How many of you would have made such a move with anything less that 2 pair? How many of you here based your decision to bet on what you hoped, rather than what you knew? Yesterday, I folded a Queen high flush based on the way I perceived my opponents in the hand. I'll never know if I got taken for a ride, and I'm not going to spend much time wondering about it either. If it was a bluff, then it was a good one.

With so many possible holdings that can beat you, I'm not sure how anyone who is unable to lay down a mere pair can ever be a long term winner in this game. And with so many of you advocating it, it makes me more suspicious than ever of that 40% win rate of on-line players.
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